The Supreme Court's ruling on the Affordable Care Act wasn't its only notable decision this week. On Sunday’s show, we'll discuss the high court's rulings on two other controversial issues: campaign finance and immigration policy. We'll examine the Court's 5-4 decision to quash an attempt by Montana to preserve its centuries-old Corrupt Practices Act. And we'll look at the Court's ruling on Arizona's harsh immigration statute, known as SB 1070, which has inspired similar measures in states across the country.
Joining Chris at 8AM ET on MSNBC will be:
Gov. Brian Schweitzer (@brianschweitzer), Democrat of Montana.
Rep. Peter Welch, Democrat of Vermont and member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Republican and co-architect of Arizona's controversial immigration statute, SB 1070.
Heather McGhee (@hmcghee), vice president of policy and research at the progressive think tank Demos.
Maria Hinojosa (@Maria_Hinojosa), anchor of NPR's Latino USA and president of Futuro Media Group.
Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald), former Constitutional and civil rights litigator, contributor at Salon.com.
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Yay, Glenn Greenwald!
Kris Kobach just lied. The chicken processing plant in Georgia, which he referred to, was not able to replace the illegal workers run off by ICE. For months later, the American citizens that were complaining about the "Mexicans" who were working at the plant and taking jobs away from legal members of our country, never came to the plant to get a JOB! The employer had to make a deal with the state of Georgia's Penal system and replaced the undocumented workers with state prisoners! Wages didn't go up, they actually were lowered!
Glenn Greenwald is a Libertarian. He is NOT a liberal and he has worked for the Cato Inst. in the past.
I can understand why Leftist pro-incest extremists like yourself would like Glenn. Libertarianism appeals to people's innate "Will to Power". Being from Germany yourself one would have hoped you realized how dangerous that path is but it I guess not.
Maybe you need to learn that lesson all over again.
I can understand why Leftist pro-incest extremists like yourself would like Glenn.
Sigh. Okay, once again: I am NOT pro-incest. I am merely for LEGALISING incest (and prostitution), simply because people have a right to sexual self-determination and therefore the state must not outlaw CONSENSUAL sex.
Libertarianism appeals to people's innate "Will to Power". Being from Germany yourself one would have hoped you realized how dangerous that path is but it I guess not.
Wow, that's very far-fetched. Also, I am NOT a libertarian.
Maybe you need to learn that lesson all over again.
Nowadays, it's clearly the USA that needs a lesson on human rights. And if you read Mr Greenwald's articles, then you would know this.
To Robert Tripplet,
The main issue is, politically, can we restructure these jobs toward more humane pay and working conditions. See my comment #42 below.
-Brian
PLEASE!!!! If you can't do your video in hour-long segments the way you used to, could you please put the segments in the order they appear in the show? It is very disconcerting to be in the middle of a discussion about campaign finance saying the Governor of Montana is coming on after the break to talk about the Supreme Court ruling's effect on his state's laws, and then the next segment is about Romney's position on immigration. It really throws the viewers off. I have asked you to do this several times, but you're still mixing them up. How hard can it be to put them in order? It makes me feel like not watching at all.
Should be an interesting "exchange" between Greenwald and Kobach.
You should include the news about RNC filing a case challenging campaign contribution caps in your "What we know now......". Please see the link:
FYI Buddy...the Earths rotation is slowing due to the drag caused by the moon :)
I was going to tell Chris it was wind power doing it! :)
Campaign finance reform...public financing ONLY..NO TV ads.. and yes the TV stations make tons of money on political ads...Still I think we should have NO TV ads, no issue ads - free airtime to discuss what the candidate proposes, debates... ( I view all the Exxon pro-fracking ads that sponsor YOUR show as political ads)..Of course the networks would not allow this loss so it would be a battle to discuss it. the best we can do is to advocate 100% public financing of ads and then have a Constitutional Convention to make that happen..but how to get the bought politicians to vote for that. The networks would attack them as they attacked Howard Dean after he had the audacity to suggest breaking up the TV networks....Disclose Act would help...not enough.
Chris Hayes looks more and more clueless to me all the time because of the few very big and important issues he still ignores. Here are some links for them. Susan Lindauer is just amazing, Chris should have her on his show along with Jill Stein.
CIA WhistleBlower Susan Lindauer: "Extreme Prejudice"
Kill The Messenger - Sibel Edmonds - Full film
Jill Stein for President: 24 hours left in matching funds drive: all eyes on AZ, CT, DC
The truth is 9/11 was an inside job and it has been covered up by big media. As long as Chris dances around that fact, he is being very politically dishonest.
I just learned links are not allowed here. Am I disappointed? You betcha!
Just because you believe in your crack pot 911 conspiracy theory doesn't mean that everyone else does.
"I just learned links are not allowed here."
The mind of a conspiracy theorist at work. You can post links if you take out the http or www part of the URL. But of course, it never occurs to you that you are merely IGNORANT. It just has to be shadowy evil forces signaling out YOU and YOU ALONE in order to stop you doing the things you want. It could NEVER be that you're just a clown who doesn't understand how to work your PC.
@ Sister Lauren: I agree with you in that Jill Stein would be a great guest ... and US president.
@ TheOnCommingStorm: Please stop the personal attacks.
Citizens United is outrageous! The argument that "Corporations are People" is also outrageous! The way to prevent what is becoming an Oligarchy is to limit all spending to $2500 per individual for any individual campaign. Therefore it's not limiting the freedom of speech, but the idea of these super-pacs and the "Karl Rove manchine" can and do buy influence with their large sums of donations actually limits the freedom of speech for those who can't afford to pour billions into any campaign. Of course it sounds too much like "public financing", which is a fair and great idea, but the New Media Companies are also Corporations and they make billions off these ad campaigns, therefore hearing the discussion probably won't be heard. The Media, it's Host included, are as complicit with this oligarchical movement. The Host, like so many of our politicians, won't speak the truth nor go up against their own "personal interests". There is not reason why the limit of 2500 dollars per person per campaign shouldn't be workable and more fair. McConnell's defense of the "poor Kock brothers" would be laughable if it weren't such an indication of the power these guys hold.
Just a hint for Chris Hays, have MSNBC spend a little money to see a therapist to have him slow down his speaking...it's very annoying and makes me change to other programing... Walter Cronkite was the consummate journalist who said your lose your audience when they can't follow what you say.
Kobach is a typical right wing lying @!$%#. Keep talking.
Someone needs to ask Kris Kobach why Kansas does not have these laws. I will give you two clues Cargill Meat Solutions and National Beef.
Don't forget the "federalization" of the Maryland State Police in the 90's for racial profiling. When I was on the force, this was a BIG issue!! We were all warned that if we didn't ask the questions of a white person, we had BETTER NOT ask those questions of someone who wasn't white!!!
Kobach in his little whitebread world, and as a person who has NEVER been "on the streets" doesn't seem to understand any of the realities of life. His statement of all a cop has to do is call the 24 ICE number and get an answer when all you have is the name and DOB made me just LAUGH!! Yea, sure, you'll get an immediate answer - if the system is up and they have enough people manning it. BTW, does Kobach have any idea what the time difference is between "detain" and "arrest"??
Soooo, does every police officer tie up the "ICE 24 hr number" asking them to verify the identities of every "dusty" white guy as well as every "dusty" non-white guy? Or every guys who is "evasive" - and BELIEVE ME, MOST people who are stopped ARE evasive - if only that they are afraid that the cop will "tag" them with something they weren't aware they were doing!! If the police officers DON'T do that, then IF DOJ still has the same balls it had in the 90's, they are going to have to place "observers" in every police department in the country!!
BTW, in addition, in all my years on the force, I never knew being "dusty" was a reason to detain a person!!
The things you learn from people who have never done a days work outside an office!!!
George - the answer is not to accede to the wishes of Cargill Meat Solutions, to the detriment of US workers. See my comment #42 below.
-Brian
I have to BS on what Kris Kobach is saying. Every illegal citizen would have to collect the full average benefits, about $2,000 a month to arrive at the number he is estimating. The average citizen who receives benefits now is less than $1,000 a month. where is he getting his numbers from?
I have to call BS on what Kris Kobach is saying and by the way, I am republican. This is political and unfortunately they don't grasp the concept of what happens in real life. It is easy to hide behind law enforcement as the answer.
Chris is exactly right about the ag community opposing Kobach's bad laws. While most here would agree that everify is something we should implement, there are good reasons why Kobach has had no success with his "papers please" approach to immigration here. First, we don't like the notion of throwing nuns who run soup kitchens in jail. Second, our prisons are crowded already. But mostly, our ag community has no desire to see crops left in the field. Kobach will deny it, but his greatest detractors include the major ag associations in Kansas. They have spoken on the House floor asking us not to pass his laws because of the negative impact on agriculture. This Harvard law-trained attorney cannot seem to write a constitutional law. Cities, counties, and states across the nation have spent millions to defend his badly-written laws. His own state had more common sense.
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I just heard Kris Kobach's segment on the show, and I found his economic ideas both overly simple and ironically reminiscent of liberal arguments that would horrify him no doubt. The idea that there will be many more jobs for Americans if we deport all illegal workers who are here seems to be based on the same logic as the old French idea that decreasing the work week to 35 hours will create a large number of new jobs. Jobs are not pieces of a pie that will never change in size. Most Republicans have long known that. And most of them cringe at being compared to Europeans.
Fred Weber, I seem to understand him just fine and everyone in my household. Could it be that you just don't like what he is saying? Anyways, I am glad that it was finally mentioned that if the Hispanic population was taken away, how much of an economic disaster it would. I am here to let America know, that if all immigrants were just to go home, this economic disaster would happen real fast, this country would fall faster than hail. Immigrants built this country, at least that is what I was taught in school, here in America.
As for the ones who always complain that immigrants are taking their jobs, get real please. How many of you Americans are going into the plantations looking for work? This country never seems to know where it is going because it forgets where it is coming from. Immigrants have been keeping food on every table in this country forever. Just remember the slaves. You all started this a long time ago by taking people from their countries to come and do the work you didn't want your hands to get dirty in. Like all the plantations!!!! Now they are still coming here for opportunity and still taking small mediocre jobs that the American people who are here, just would not want or even think of going to look for. So if we the American people who are here are not thinking of doing the jobs that help keep this country running, who is going to do it. The owners of these places know what they need and there are American people around them that could ask for work but are not, because they think that it is beneath them. Then there are people who would do any type of job to feed their families. Dang, sometimes I am so ashamed of my fellow Americans. I am so tired of having to defend my country on simple things like these that common sense should have shown you to know better. That is why this country is in trouble, NO COMMON SENSE. Bin Landen used common sense and screwed us already. When will you people learn?
Chris, should highlight the fact that the focus is simply being shifted to blame the employee versus the corporation which in an un regulated environment will seek out cheap labor regardless if that labor is found crossing a border or via out sourcing.... all the same thing!!!! It is the humanity that comes to light as we look at this issue regarding border crossing. People are people... they are seeking work to eat and live. To even entertain the idea that a corporation will suddenly pay higher wages if we take illegal imigrants out of the equation as Kris Kobach suggests is REDICULOUS!! Corporations will take complete advantage of the desperate labor pool of legal Americans (created thanks to republican driven policy) in the same way!! Or they will move to a place where they can use people for cheap labor. People are simply a means to profit for the corporation nothing else. I am not down on business but they have an agenda and that agenda is not to supply Americans with jobs.. in fact corporations have no loyalty to country or humans unless it serves thier agenda..profit! Mr. Kobach makes a very good corporate shill!
Is freedom of speech for "fictional persons" to be defended/promoted at the expense of eroding fundamental political equality (of each voter)? To do so is to turn principle inside out making political equality a myth subservient to an oligarchy of the super rich.
Hi Claudette!
Yes! to your comments! If we look at the direction the republican polices have been taking this country we can see a trend toward two distinct things protecton for corporations to exist with minimal regulation and a war on labor. I don't think it is any accident that unemployment has climbed under republican driven policy. Create a desperate pool of labor right here in America as a means to keep corporations here and from out sourcing. Create a strawman arguement against illegal immigration as a distraction. Destroy the unions (Walker) so they don't have to pay a living wage and take away regulation so corporations can live with impunity. The good news is that the labor pool is the 99% and we want jobs and humanity! We want love, art and human connection - and jobs. We don't just want money. And we are not dumb. And we VOTE!
I am getting very sad now as I see more and more of reporting on MSNBC which insists on providing the "Other Side" of the argument. That's fine when discussing opinions, but when we already KNOW that Citizens United is horrific, we KNOW that the AZ law will result in Profiling and 10 years of BS Court action, we KNOW that SuperPacs are eliminating the possibility of fair campaigns, and we KNOW that there is Global Warming, that there was a Holocaust, that the wealthiest 0.01% is nearly completely in control of all political and policy decisions for the next 20 years, we do NOT need to hear from the "Other Side". Leave that to Jerry Springer Journalism where we just hear logic being shouted down by insanity. We need solutions, not re-hashing whether a bill to stop and ask for papers is racially motivated, or whether there is really any necessity to stop global warming. It really has become strange that the most disgusting things are missed because there is no chaos in reporting it. The Banning of Abortions in Tenn. hardly gets a mention. War for OIL! Continued Pentagon Contracts for Fraudsters! Bring back the Occupy people. Bring Back the solution based people. I can watch Fox to hear the people who think Citizens United is fine and Corporations ARE people.
I agree with you whit. I tried to watch thenew show at 3pm but I do not want to hear what SE Cupp thinks about anything.
I do like what Chris is saying, but not how he says it. He frequently stumbles over his own words, can't get a sentence started because his brain is faster than his mouth, often causing him to stutter. He also has other annoying habits, such as finishing guests sentences for them. No one else on MSNBC does this. When Ezra Klein sat in a while ago it was far better. Saying pretty much the same things, but far calmer
Chris may not need speech therapy, but he should at least listen to his colleagues, and try to emulate them
Good show, I have dropped my Sunday paper to have coffee with your show. Thanks!
I think it would be helpful if we drew a distinction between individual rights and the rights of people belonging to an association. They are not exactly the same but the law treats them the same. I also think it would be helpful if we drew a distinction between freedom of speech and freedom to support a cause. Giving money to a group or an individual who you support is not the same as expressing your support but the law treats them the same.
Ezra Klein is brilliant!! I also think Chris is brilliant. They just manage their passion differently. Frankly I love it. I love that Chris's brainis ahead of him! As for the content, I love his show as I find it refreshing, real and intelligent. As for hearing the other side of an issue and finding a solution.... well that will require open dialogue like what was seen today, because while many of us know the issues a lot of folks are just mired in the weeds of survival (no accident) and really don't know what crazy arguments are being used to sucker them to vote against their own interests, health and welfare. Regarding Kobach's comments today, my only wish was the someone would have pulled back the lens to show how Kobach's statements were straw-men. Again, the idea that a corporation would pay more for an American to work for it versus a "desperate immigrant" is moronic. That Kobach continued to emphasize this point, I think needed to be exposed for what it was... Kobach shilling for corporate interests, not labor, and not American workers! Again, a desperate labor pool of Americans, Mexicans, Africans,Chinese, children, cats or dogs is all the same to a corporation with one primary purpose and one agenda. I will say too that I make no judgement about such an agenda. However, if we are to have a society that upholds its humanity we had better keep pushing and pushing hard for a strong government aimed at working for the "PEOPLE" and by the PEOPLE. And of course getting the money out will be the first major step in that direction.
The more I see Ezra Klein the more I like him. I am glad he is on our side. a
You are really starting to cut in to my weekend early morning road biking time. Taping it, doesn't seem to do it for me. I like being there, so right now I'm having some difficulties. Today's show, like yesterday's show, was dyn o myte.
First of all, I am happy for all the uninsured in America that will have health care. I'm happy for all the children with preconditions who will now have health care. We should be celebrating, like the man said, what's his name, the guy who knows everything about good care, and he does. To me, I know I'm way out on this stuff because I actually have health care, the whole argument of the Constitution does a disservice to rational thinking. We now have health care because of the Constitution? Wait! The Constitution did not provide for health care at the beginning? Of course not, no one died then? Or they didn't have a pot to piss in, if they could. To hear some one carping or waxing over the Interstate Commerce Clause, when it comes to my next door neighbor who was dying, up until she died, and I'm sad to say I was unable to pick up her gazillion dollar expenses, kind of makes me want to stick my finger down my throat, again. Let's all take a vacation on Health Care and let the House Repeal it and get their rocks off. It's the 4th of July. It's Independence Day. Maybe we will have an Alien Invasion, after all.
OK. On to aliens. I like them. They seem to do good. Work hard. Very honest. Those are the people out there who are actually doing the speed limit or lower. Here's my advice, don't get behind a retired person or an illegal alien, it will drive you insane. The show would have been better if you had a half time and had a Mexican Hat Dance and played some mariachi between segments, which I have to say are becoming far too numerous. I liked the show better when you didn't have any advertisers ((which makes me think that your show is possibly a leading indicator, since everyone who watches it probably doesn't even have a job, for sure, but the powers that be, maybe think that some day they will, and that they will remember the commercial). These people must be all nuns. Actually I'm retired and don't need to work, and since I'm taping the show to do exercise while it is still COOL out, I skip the commercials anyway. Do you think other people do that, I mean, exercise while it's still COOL out? So, your guest. The guy from Kobach or Kapok, which was it? The warm fuzzy guy, who when you sat on him you get hot. You really should do some self examination Chris. The difference between $2.8 Billion a year and the price of a Mac fish sandwich isn't like that big of a difference, if you work on Wall Street or you are a Romney advisor. I mean, it is actually possible to have an intelligent discussion on immigration but give up on trying to have a balance guest list. Your tried that and it failed. It is actually starting to look INSANE.
One final thought; let's not think any more. It just seems like such a waste of time, hurling your incredibly insightful thoughts up against a wall of Jericho. Get out there and register some voters. Show us what you are up to on the ground. Give us some insight into what is happening that will actually amount to something. You just can't sit around all day talking to a rattlesnake.