On tomorrow's show we'll discuss the swell of unrest in Libya, Egypt, Yemen, and the broader Middle East, along with the attacks on the American consulate in Benghazi and the American embassies in Egypt and Tunisia. We'll examine Mitt Romney's response to the White House's handling of those attacks, and we'll ask what America's foreign policy might look like under a Romney presidency. Plus, we'll dissect the stand-off between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Obama over Iran's nuclear program.
Sam Seder, host of the Majority Report, will be filling in for Chris Hayes. Joining Sam tomorrow at 8am ET on MSNBC are:
Phyllis Bennis, Director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies, Founder of the U.S. Campaign to End Israeli Occupation, Co-chair of the UN-based International Coordinating Network on Palestine
Hooman Majd, (@hmajd) Iranian-born writer and author of the books, "The Ayatollah Begs to Differ: The Paradox of Modern Iran" and "The Ayatollahs' Democracy: An Iranian Challenge"
Reza Aslan, (@rezaaslan) Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and author of “No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam”
Heather Hurlburt, (@natsecHeather) Executive Director, National Security Network, former Clinton administration Special Assistant and Speechwriter to the President (1995-2001), former speechwriter for Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Warren Christopher, and former member of the State Department's Policy Planning staff
Eli Lake, (@ELILAKE) Senior National Security reporter for Newsweek and The Daily Beast
Zainab Salbi, (@ZainabSalbi) Founder of Women for Women International and author of “Between Two Worlds: Escape from Tyranny: Growing Up in the Shadow of Saddam,” she is the daughter of Saddam Hussein's pilot.
Ethar El-Katatney, (@ETHARKAMAL) Egyptian journalist and author of “Forty Days and Forty Nights in Yemen”
Daniel Levy, former special advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister (1999-2001) and Co-Editor of The Middle East Channel, Foreign Policy. He served on the negotiating team during the Oslo negotiations.
::Blogged by Katherine Guthrie, production assistant for Up w/ Chris Hayes::





UPDATE:
9-14-12
Chris Hayes on Real Time with Bill Maher…
Progressive spokespersons such as Hayes, Ed Shultz, Thom Hartmann, Amy Goodman, the Young Turks, etc making the case for raising taxes on the Rich is actually a good argument... BUT, I can't help thinking an important ingredient in that mix would be how the money is SPENT once government bureaucrats get their slimy little fingers on it. (lol) SEE: post titled "A serious misallocation of resources"
What good is raising taxes if it goes to money pits like the Military Industrial Complex or the WAR ON DRUGS Industrial Complex or the Oil Subsidies Industrial Complex or the Jail/prison Industrial Complex or the Paramedical Industrial Complex or even the Wall St/K-St Corporate Crime Wave?
WHY is Chris Hayes is agreeing with the Conservative wacko concerning the Carter Administration? Instead of looking at the HISTORICAL FACTS that big business and the military sabotaged the 4 years Carter had to fix the Nixon mess. An Oil shortage… REALLY? Inflation… REALLY? Ollie North was in charge of the FAILED Iran Hostage rescue mission… REALLY?
NOTE: See post on Class War Cyber Bitch Slap titled "May Day 2012, The People are coming to dinner"
Special Political Operative 101
as posted on consciousmc.blogspot.com
© 2012 by Spo101
Carter didn't fix anything, he ran the country into the ground.
Next bill maher is a pot head.
He is about as funny as a wet toilet seat.
WRONG Conservative wacko. Low grade thought processes like yours are representative of EVERYTHING that is wrong with the USA. Quit getting your revised history from FOX Spin... ahhaaahhh, I mean news and the AM radio Limbaughs.
If Americans had followed through with Carter's energy policy we would NOT have high gas prices nor the Gulf oil spill.
Republicans believe Corporations have a right to do as they please. Most card carrying conservatives are so ignorant they don’t even know their own ideological CREDO. “Limited intervention in the economy. Substantial intervention in morality”.
This means let the RICH do whatever they please while finger pointing and preaching to the average Joe and Jane Smuck.
Reagan/Bush killed ANTI-TRUST and any regulation that kept industry HONEST. When Reagan/Bush came to power, the USA was #1 on the planet in exporting goods and importing raw materials. This is the very definition of a prosperous economy. In 2007, it is the exact opposite. Why? Years of Republicans selling out the American middle class, that’s why.
Snap out of it and wake the **** up before you Conservative imbeciles totally destroy the USA. Read Lloyd the Baptist for guidance jinnbad.blogspot.com
Carter ran the country into the ground.
The prime rate was 20% the unemployment rate was 10%.
Over 400 days of Americans being held hostage.
Leave to the lefty's to blame everyone but their Messiah.
Now wold you like to talk about the 60's and the democrats that killed black people.
They use to call Birmingham Bombingham.
You have a good post. Reagan undid ALL the energy conservation programs (like solar) when he got into office and took the solar panels off the roof of the WH. Like the Bush crime family and repubs today supporting Romneybot 2.0, the GOP was owned and operated by big oil & defense.
Regarding the non-fact-based comments and commentators, I have found that arguing with trolls is like throwing pearls to swine. It wastes your time and just annoys the pigs.
If one is in the 20% hard-core radical-conservative-authoritarian right, facts are irrelevant. They consider all dems and for that matter all citizens who disagree with their 'facts' as illegitimate. Save you time for other good posts.
Please discuss these issues:
Israel seeks to resume building on private Palestinian land in 40 West Bank settlements
mondoweiss.net/2012/09/israel-seeks-to-resume-building-on-private-palestinian-land-in-40-west-bank-settlements.html
Israel grabs hundreds of acres of Nablus olive trees to build ‘Israeli bypass road’
mondoweiss.net/2012/09/israeli-govt-seeks-to-expand-40-settlements-and-grabs-nablus-land-for-bypass-road.html
There's also this article:
Career protection and the Israel lobby
mondoweiss.net/2012/09/career-protection-and-the-israel-lobby.html
"Career protection is the big reason pundits and commentators tend to avoid the lobby issue like the plague. (Note how Netanyahu’s attack on Obama was not news on MSNBC)."
NO! I've had it with Israel and the Arab world. I'm 60 years old and my entire life I've had to watch the world's so-called great religions fight and fight and fight and blow each other up. I's time to get off that train...
Pull all foreign aid and bring it back home to spend on the America PEOPLE. Stop the arms dealing and war profiteering get down on you knees and ask your GOD for forgiveness cause you people are @!$%#ed up!
Let's ignore the Middle East for a while and concentrate on Alternative energy research
Why does nobody talk about the USA's and Israel's nuclear weapons? Get rid of your own nuclear weapons first, before you lecture other countries on their supposed nuclear weapons.
I guess you forgot the USA bailed Germany out, maybe you have heard of WWII.
Maybe you should have a look at the calendar. Times have changed. Nowadays, it's the USA that starts wars and murders innocent people en masse.
Innocent people? name them.
All the people who were killed in Iraq, most of the people who were killed in Afghanistan, most of the people who are/were killed by drone strikes.
And what about all the people that were killed in the world trade center?
Or did you forget about them?
"Innocent people? name them."
One of the saddest things for me is that we don't know their names.
@Dorothea, ho-lee-cow is a troll who likes his own posts. I know it's hard, but I recommend trying to ignore him.
These were 3,000 people. US troops killed hundreds of thousands just in Iraq. So, who is the bigger terrorist?
@ Karuwa:
Yeah, that's sad. However, it wouldn't really make a difference. Knowing their names wouldn't bring them back to life. What matters is that the USA doesn't repeat the same mistake with Iran. The USA must also keep Israel from attacking Iran.
Thanks. I'll try.
@ Dorothea from Germany & the GOOD advice from Karuwa regarding trolls:
Regarding the non-fact-based comments and commentators, I have found that arguing with trolls is like throwing pearls to swine. It wastes your time and just annoys the pigs.
If one is in the 20% hard-core radical-conservative-authoritarian right, facts are irrelevant. They consider all dems and for that matter all citizens who disagree with their 'facts' as illegitimate. Save you time for other good posts.
I have yet to hear the President say 'I am sorry.' in any public statement. If he had, the right wing media would broadcast it everywhere, every hour, on the hour. This is in spite of the fact that the previous Administration alienated our friends, multiplied our enemies and nearly sent the world's economy down the drain with its policies.
Who apologizes to the families of the four heroes whose deaths were used to inflame the passions they gave their lives to suppress? Mr. Romney cannot be trusted to advance the interests of this nation when those he will deal with will have adults in the room. He certainly cannot be trusted when NO adults are in the room.
Adults respect people enough to tell the truth.
Adults listen more than they speak.
Adults stop fights.
Adults take responsibility for, not just profit from, their acts.
Pray we elect adults November 6.
Using your critical thinking skills about the kind of "adult behavior" that is expected from our leaders...can I ask you a question? or two? Have you heard reports about some protesters chanting " Obama, Obama...we are all Osama" or something similar to that? Have any US leaders in the last two weeks publicly commented about the killing of Osama? Just curious as to what information you actually have.
I did not hear reports of such protests but anyone who makes policy to satisfy that element deserves to be pushed around by every Tom, Dick and Abdul who wants to scream something. We were blessed in the 1770's and 1780's to have men who knew better and a war to keep them united and focused. Pray it does not take a war in each nation to do the same in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, etc.
No, I haven't, and I do not expect to. To use a sports analogy, that was last year's touchdown. This year's goal line (if Congress will let them) is to foster democracies that respect themselves, their people and each other in nations that have precious little experience in democracy. The next example for citizen self government after the United States was the French Revolution. The previous Administration tried imposing one on Iraq and now we have a resurgent Iran threatening all the countries in the region. It is the inalienable right of a people to determine thier own safeguards for their security once they have rid themselves of old ones. The United States can and must make sure these new experiments in democracy do not interfere with each other.
Leave it to the chris hayes show to blame America for these morons running around killing people.
This is a free country, if you want to make a movie making fun of religion you have every right to.
These people need to stop being so insecure about their religion.
The USA keeps invading Muslim countries and killing innocent Muslims. So, of course, Muslims are a little sensitive when it comes to the USA.
And who high jacked some planes and flew them into buildings?
Who is that uses suicide bombers to do their dirty work?
Some individuals from an international terrorist group.
I recommend the song "Terrorist" by the rapper Lowkey:
youtube.com/watch?v=lUDnF9h6GTY
"Tell me, what's the bigger threat to human society
BAE Systems or homemade IEDs?
Remote-controlled drones killing off human lives
Or man with homemade bomb committing suicide
I know you were terrified when you saw the towers fall
It's all terror but some forms are more powerful"
Ms. Bennis would delight Mr. Romney. Finally, he has his apologist for the United States' bad behavior. While things are working out, all we want is our embassies protected at the very least and a statement now and then from foreign leaders we send American taxpayer money to and violence against us is not acceptable. I'm sure she's right about a lot. She seems to be very knowledgeable but she's annoying as hell and I would vote to leave Egypt and Libya and all the Middle East and take our money with us. Let them continue to kill each other and leave us the hell out of it until they achieve some sort of civilized approach to their problems.
Please spare viewers the pain of having to listen to Phyllis Beemis. Her bias is so apparent that she brings very little to a discussion otherwise distinguished by a broadly educated and informed panel members.
i've tried to submit this three times! i am disappointed to see the anti israel panel with the renowned israel basher Phylis Bennis. Finally Eli Lake tried to respond but the host, who is no
Chris Hayes by the way,is hardly trying to balance anything! very disappointed and a fan of the show..until now.
by the way, a J Street rep from Israel, Daniel Levy is hardly the "other side." Perhaps the show should look a little harder.
I love the usual give and take of ideas on this show, however Eli Lake is so obstinate and such a bully that he changes the tone of the whole show. His clear disdain for the other guests is noticable when someone else is talking and he is still on camera and can be seen rolling his eyes and looking disgusted! Even if he thinks he is knowlegeable in this area I don't think his temperament is suited for the format of this show.
sorry the bullies are everyone else..he is a lone voice...they are the ones piling on..
Reza at least is trying to tell the facts
Eli Lake is an Israel Firster. As far as these cretins are concerned Israel is always right even when they kill 400+ Gazan children.
Please spare your viewers any further clap trap coming out of Phyllis Beenis' mouth. Her one sided perspective, self important, eye rolling attitude lowers the tone of the discussion. She is unbearable.
Phyllis Beenis was right on target most of the time. Did not repeat cliches everyone expects to hear and that was a refreshing point of view. Both Messrs Aslan and Majd were very articulate and avoided presenting one sided views (unlike Mr. Lake) and explained the Iranian psyche as best anyone can. Thank you for having such a wide array of guests on your show. Specially when it comes to discussing foreign affairs and near east affairs in particular, a topic where the discussion on other shows is generally tilted in favor of one side (at best).
I ask myself, why do the people of Israel elect a corrupt fool like Netanyahu? Then I remember: we re-elected W. and might elect Mitt. Yikes.
In today's program Phyllis Bennis made a comment that I believe was unfairly defused by the other panelists and deserves further focus. This was in regard to the "objective" meaning of Mitt Romney's criticism of the statement made by the American Embassy in Cairo this past Tuesday condemning an anti-Muslim video.
It seemed to me that what Ms. Bennis was bringing to the discussion was the importance of how Romney's statement may be misinterpreted by non-western Muslims who are likely to be unfamiliar with American principles.
When Romney released his statement saying that the administration apologized for American principles, in spite of it's disconnect, us westerners conclude that the principle he's referring to is our freedom of speech, but how difficult is it for non-western Muslims to reach the same conclusion?
Looking at the "objective" wording of his statement, it's reasonable to assume that Non-western Muslims may interpret it's meaning to be in defense, not of our freedom of speech, but the very same anti-Muslim principles depicted in the video that fueled these protests, and therefor fueling them even more. These kinds of thoughtless and irresponsible statements only further anti-American sentiment and ultimately jeopardize the safety of our diplomats.
Eli Lake basically said that it means you dislike somebody if you criticize him ("you don't like Israel, we get it"). What an immature person to have on the panel. He seems much more emotionally involved than the two men from "the other side". It diminishes much of what he can contribute to the discussion, imho.
I totally agree. And you also have to consider that Ms. Bennis' negative criticism of Israel was very mild.
r u kidding? she is practically rabid on the topic and always has been!
She didn't even say anything against Zionism and the discrimination against the Palestinian citizens of Israel.
Those who defend human and civil rights violations are rabid.
Phillis Bennis is a scholor and has a body of work whether you like it or not. Who is Eli Lake? Is it just me or is he just another Israel-first-er from AIPAC. I don't know his background but he worked way to hard defending and trying to cut off ANY critical comment regarding Israel or 'Bibi.
For a very long time the right wing Zionists (of which most of the romneyBot 2.0 neo-cons identify) here and in Israel have worked real hard to stigmatize ANYONE criticizing Israel ans being either antisemitic (if you are goyam) or a self-hating Jew if you're not. This is a slander and defamation of the worst kind.
Good show to wake up to for my birthday. My grandfather was born in Jaffa, in what is now Israel. He's Palestinian, but as wonderful a person as anybody. I feel so disturbed with the demonizing of all Arabs, and Persians, and Armenians. Many people don't even know the difference, which speaks to the ignorance many have towards the region.
Don't know why Chris invites this lying Israel Firster to his show. Eli Lake is a vile, racist all Israel all the time waste of space.
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First thing to do is stop the money flow to all countries that support terrorism
of any-kind,especially against our Embassies. This will get their attention. We are giving away borrowed money! Next ,tell all the oil consuming countries"Your own your own"
What pumps here stays here,by President decree. Tell all our allies if you want Muslims
cleanup your own mess. The right of free speech is our right. The world will have to
deal with it. This is not the first time,nor the last. Tell Romney,to see a mental clinic
and a butt doctor,to get that bone out of his ass. He's a real piece of work, GWB is
alot smarter than him,and didn't cheat on this finals at Yale like he did!
Sorry, having posting problems.
I think Sam did a fine job. The panel was so engaged and interactive that it was appropriate or him to guide the discussion without contributing his own point of view. I was surprised that the issue of Adelson's contribution to Romney's campaign did not come up especially since Adelson has the singular interest in our entry into a war with Iran. Romney seems aware of this arrangement and is eager to comply.
I am hoping that in the future the show will consider having a panel of reps from both J street and AIPAC. Since both groups have a strong commitment to the Israeli state, the different ideas about how the state can be maintained would be of interest to viewers.
Finally, the attacks by the prior commenters on Ms. Bennis verge on abject misogyny. They harken back to the attacks on Hillary during her campaign. Just check yourselves.
The Muslim mind set has no tolerance for intellectual thought.
As the broadcast showed "Blood will flow". If they want to be ruled by Clerics let them.
Let Europe deal with this cancer. The big stick will not work with people that blow themselves up. No logic will work.
Stale bull@!$%# regurgitated without thinking. Typical behavior of Islamophobes.